Limiting suicide negative points

[ecube]

I was playing deathmatch on RE public a while ago, and this happened:


One player was weighing down his team because he kept (probably by accident). Can there be a limit on how many points one can lose for his team from dying in death material? Maybe preventing a player's score from dropping below 0?

EDIT: This is specific to death-material-related suicides. Actual suicides (i.e. /suicide, K) are more suited for another topic.

[shirepirate]

i don't recall the variables offhand, but i agree the penalty is too harsh for all of them and could use a revision. probably better to let quin make that decision.
the reason normal suicide penalty was increased so much is to prevent the cheap tactic of offing yourself when receiving residual damage or when someone has pushed you off of a ledge.
i don't know why the penalty for deathmat is so high though

[qreeves]

There's also the option of applying the "anti-teamkill" system whereby the person gets warned and if they continue they are kicked and the points they lost are reverted, though this may be too harsh a penalty for what might be simple noobishness. The other option is to stop taking points from a player with 0 or less points, but then you have the problem where if the person is being intentionally pushed into the lava by an opponent (say, with flamer2), the points and penalties make sense. Might be better for a poll with some well thought out options.

[bonifarz]

Or maybe only positive player scores should contribute to a deathmatch team score? If you get a regular point penalty, it may still take a while to get your score positive again, but a player could not lower his team's score in purpose.

[yeatta]

[ecube]

[bonifarz]

I'll pick other in your poll and keep my above suggestion (i.e. player score should not be capped at zero, but negative scores should be ignored for summing up dm team scores). The other options don't seem feasible to me. Okay, you could fine tune the penalty on death mat, but I think that does not change much, and it is reasonable to have it the same as for blowing up yourself or committing suicide.

[shirepirate]

i'd say bonifarz's suggestion is good, but i'd present it on the scoreboard as 0 with actual score in parenthesis until it hits a positive value again. i.e. for the above image, edaq's score would be and Fuzck you's score would be , with the negative values not counting toward the team score. this could also be changed back to the old behavior or other behaviors with variables.

so something like a variable and 0 would be the new default behavior, 1 would negatively affect team score & 2 would prevent scores from becoming negative

along with that the penalties should be lightened a bit, IMO