Greaserpirate's Last-Minute Map Updates

[Greaserpirate2]

Hi, I'm not dead.

I haven't had a lot of time to work on maps, so I hope I didn't take too long with these updates.

For Erosion, I fixed the clipping issues, added terrain, improved texturing and lighting, added a zapper, and replaced the electrocuted grunt with an antenna

For Affluence, I made the green lasers trigger when you're on the bottom ledge so you know it's deadly before jumping down, I added a new area in the center, and added more weapons

For Campgrounds, I added more cover so you can't snipe all the way across the map. It's still more open than the original Quake map, but less camp-y than the RE map used to be.


I also have a recoil mod which I'm 99% finished with. I think it's probably too late for that to be included, but I'll be done with it soon when I'm on break.

Peace,

Greaser

[SniperGoth]

You forgot Suspended 2 again, like last time .

[Iceflower]

[shirepirate]

[Greaserpirate2]

Right, sorry; I read the updates, but I forgot a few things. I'll fix them as soon as possible.

[shirepirate]

[qreeves]

Are the improvements significant enough to warrant looking for the issues and fixing them again? We seem to have a lot of issues coordinating updates with upstream authors..

[Greaserpirate2]

[radiant]

[SniperGoth]

Some challenges for the player to get some extra items are always welcome. Im always finding myself grabbing the grenades from the ceiling on the original suspended.
About the waypoints, i don't have them. But i think the ones from suspended itself should work.

[JDWhyte]

Greaser.. you never answered my emails! lol

[Greaserpirate2]

[shirepirate]

greaser, you seem to be concentrating on the specific problems with the maps that people have mentioned, forgetting that they are all already fixed. we don't require your fixes at this point. the files you've created are wonderful improvements, but let's make it very clear: they will not be committed to RE until you've based the same improvements off of the current map files. this was told to you by 2 people now and you've side-stepped it/ignored it, i and no-one here wants you to waste any more time making fixes to files we will not use, mate! this is the same policy set in place by quin quite a while ago, that "if you want to modify it at a later point, changes you make will need to be based on our version." just because you failed to understand it is not our fault. thanks for understanding and thanks for your contributions.

[Greaserpirate2]

[qreeves]

What everyone seems to be getting at is that, while you have done some of the work fixing the issues, there are still other unaddressed ones or the fixes you've tried don't work in practice. The crouch bug still exists (and I will be looking at the code to see if I can resolve the issue there too), and there's just been way too many little fixes along the way for anyone to be even able to tell you what exactly is missing. This happens a lot on popular open world maps, and people find strange ways to abuse it; we've had many people abuse spots on both erosion and suspended in order to interfere with regular gameplay, and fixing this is our main imperative at this point.

I have left map quality assurance in the hands of radiant and shirepirate in order to lighten the load on myself so we can actually make progress on the 1.5 release. Unless either of them is willing to go over your version of the maps and fix all the issues, I'm afraid we'll have to stick with what we've got in SVN for now. There's too much pressure to get a stable release out at this point.

[Greaserpirate2]

So what you're saying is that there were changes to the svn versions that haven't been recorded in the changelog, and you're saying it would be too much effort to find all of the places fixed in those maps?

That's a shame, really. I'll try to find time to work on porting some of the changes I've made, but I'm also very busy with work. What time should I have them completed by? (I have a paper on Friday and also course selections for next semester so I really can't do much more this week, but next week is better for me.)

[radiant]

The campgrounds map does look reasonable, so I built off of it for if you want to update. You may notice that suspended shows up in that list as well; it's still built from the prior SVN version and the only change is that the lower kill boundary was raised by 60m. Sloped floors and ceilings need to be clipped up to a height of 1.5m to effectively prevent exploits, not just 1.0, which you can see from the fixes that are in place on this official version (including on the red and blue sides, which your last round of fixes didn't even try to address).

[shirepirate]

[Greaserpirate2]

[shirepirate]

[Greaserpirate2]

Finally done.

Erosion was the trickiest by far since the cfg changed, but I was able to port almost everything over. I had to re-clip the rocks under the windows though becaus eit was possible to crouch-stand into the base right near the flag.

On Suspended I decided to re-add the weapons up top, but to comply with the initiative towards easy-to-reach weapons I added a flamer and grenade to each side that were much easier to get. I also added a tiny purple light to the easter egg area (only visible if you're right up next to it) and made it noclipped/lava with the easter egg obituary. I also updated the Campgrounds baniser.

[shirepirate]

you're a very difficult person to work with
you didn't base campgrounds off of the most recent version, and where is affluence?

we will make the best of these campgrounds, erosion & suspended versions then commit them. thanks for making the effort.
there may be a couple small changes here and there, but please note it's for map playability only.

UPDATE:
campgrounds, erosion & suspended have been committed to SVN. any more changes made to these or other maps will need to be based off our current version, thanks.

[Greaserpirate2]

Thanks! Sorry about Campgrounds, I messed up with file names (it was 2 in the morning when I finished the others).

The latest version of affluence should be in the second set of downloads (GP_map_updates_r2).

[shirepirate]