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Red Eclipse • View topic - Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation
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Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2014 18:42
by SylvieLorxu
See screenshot.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2014 19:18
by SniperGoth
Easy enough.
But i agree that an sort of ladder is needed for the bots/new players.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2014 19:22
by SylvieLorxu
The point is that weapons and game-critical objects should be reachable without complicated moves like wallrunning.

Moving the bomber ball into the tunnel allows a ladder route for less experienced players, and a fall after the wallrun for more experienced once, so that would probably be the easiest fix.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 06:15
by shirepirate
actually this is a bug, the ball should not be spawning there as it isn't even a bomberball-defined affinity (it's the team affinity for non-insta modes). the affinities could be better placed, but i'll wait until the bug is figured out to mess with it.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 07:48
by qreeves
I just tried to test this (and the mapbalance thing) in SVN. I cannot reproduce either error, I tried ctf, dtf, bomber, multi-bomber, hold-bomber, and multi-hold-bomber. All affinities spawn where they should and there is no mapbalance kicking in anywhere.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 08:09
by shirepirate
hm, i used the same mutators as in the original post screeny. is the ball supposed to spawn at bases in attack BB? if so i'm not sure i even understand how to play this mutator, maybe it could be explained better. with the mentioned mutators teams are balanced 4 times, without it seems not

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 08:15
by qreeves

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 08:32
by radiant
Wait, multi-attack bomber is actually a thing? That sounds practically unplayable, one offense at a time against three defense teams that might as well be colored the same to remind each other that they form a temporary alliance.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 08:38
by qreeves

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 08:53
by radiant
In fact, omega are the only attackers in that combination; any other team that attempts to grab the ball will force a reset. If the behavior is meant to be otherwise, then that's a bug.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 20 Oct 2014 09:54
by qreeves
Oh yep, that's a bug then I guess.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 21 Oct 2014 16:33
by SylvieLorxu
Excuse me for re-opening this, but the issue has merely changed from the bomber ball itself being hard to the goals being hard to reach.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 21 Oct 2014 21:35
by qreeves
So fix it? :P

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2014 00:21
by shirepirate
for now i put the higher affinities as freestyle only, the lower affinities for every other mode. if this doesn't work it can be modified again.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2014 12:14
by SylvieLorxu

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2014 20:18
by SylvieLorxu
Attached is a version where the goal/flag affinities are always easily reachable. Please merge.

Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

PostPosted: 22 Oct 2014 20:57
by shirepirate
done, multi weapons changed to multi mutator only as well.