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Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby SylvieLorxu » 19 Oct 2014 18:42

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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby SniperGoth » 19 Oct 2014 19:18

Easy enough.
But i agree that an sort of ladder is needed for the bots/new players.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby SylvieLorxu » 19 Oct 2014 19:22

The point is that weapons and game-critical objects should be reachable without complicated moves like wallrunning.

Moving the bomber ball into the tunnel allows a ladder route for less experienced players, and a fall after the wallrun for more experienced once, so that would probably be the easiest fix.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby shirepirate » 20 Oct 2014 06:15

actually this is a bug, the ball should not be spawning there as it isn't even a bomberball-defined affinity (it's the team affinity for non-insta modes). the affinities could be better placed, but i'll wait until the bug is figured out to mess with it.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby qreeves » 20 Oct 2014 07:48

I just tried to test this (and the mapbalance thing) in SVN. I cannot reproduce either error, I tried ctf, dtf, bomber, multi-bomber, hold-bomber, and multi-hold-bomber. All affinities spawn where they should and there is no mapbalance kicking in anywhere.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby shirepirate » 20 Oct 2014 08:09

hm, i used the same mutators as in the original post screeny. is the ball supposed to spawn at bases in attack BB? if so i'm not sure i even understand how to play this mutator, maybe it could be explained better. with the mentioned mutators teams are balanced 4 times, without it seems not
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby radiant » 20 Oct 2014 08:32

Wait, multi-attack bomber is actually a thing? That sounds practically unplayable, one offense at a time against three defense teams that might as well be colored the same to remind each other that they form a temporary alliance.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby radiant » 20 Oct 2014 08:53

In fact, omega are the only attackers in that combination; any other team that attempts to grab the ball will force a reset. If the behavior is meant to be otherwise, then that's a bug.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby qreeves » 20 Oct 2014 09:54

Oh yep, that's a bug then I guess.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby SylvieLorxu » 21 Oct 2014 16:33

Excuse me for re-opening this, but the issue has merely changed from the bomber ball itself being hard to the goals being hard to reach.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby qreeves » 21 Oct 2014 21:35

So fix it? :P
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby shirepirate » 22 Oct 2014 00:21

for now i put the higher affinities as freestyle only, the lower affinities for every other mode. if this doesn't work it can be modified again.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby SylvieLorxu » 22 Oct 2014 20:18

Attached is a version where the goal/flag affinities are always easily reachable. Please merge.
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Re: Bomberball is hard to reach on convulation

Postby shirepirate » 22 Oct 2014 20:57

done, multi weapons changed to multi mutator only as well.
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